On Professional Jealousy & Envy
May. 16th, 2010 09:37 amI was writing last night while peeping into the Twitter feed for the Nebula Awards.
Five years ago--when I'd been doing this for a whopping two years--I would have been seething with jealousy, and wouldn't have gotten any writing done. I might've opened a chat window or written a journal entry or something. (Private journal.) Who knows? But SEETHING, on some level, would have happened.
(I admit this. I am a jealous kind of person. I try not to let it affect my life and relationships with other people, but it's been this way for a long time. I've thought about this a lot, and I think it has more to do with living an insecure childhood than being spoiled. Not that I was spoiled, but I was an only child, and there are some myths about only children that still come flying at me unexpectedly to this day. Look: Only children are normal. The actual evidence suggests we have slight advantages in some situations, no disadvantages. All the only kids I know talked like adults at a young age, because they had only adults to talk to, and that's about it. And I like to think I had the advantage of learning to share with my parents, and not with some obnoxious younger/older twit who didn't have the emotional maturity to reciprocate and share back. Seriously, teaching two kids to share with each other? That has got to be the HARDEST job in the world. )
Disclaimer: the psyche I analyze may just be my own
Anyway, here's the other thing: I see this seethingess in new writers a lot. Not always, not all writers, but I do see it. And when I see it, it perplexes me, because I know I had it, too, and I didn't know why.
When you embark on something, some art, some career, some something where there are qualitative judgments and visceral reactions, and upon those judgments and reactions hinge money, and awards, and incalculable factors like popularity, coolness, and prestige, jealousy is a necessary thing. (For certain personalities, obvs.) You can't get there from here if you don't want that stuff.
And it has to be jealousy, not envy. Envy is wanting what other people have. Jealousy is the envy you get when something is taken from you. And I have a lot of professional envy for many people in my field--for just about everyone who's not me, in point of fact--and that's good, it makes me aware of what's possible, it makes me strive.
But I wouldn't have kept going two years ago if all I'd felt was envy. Envy is a peer-to-peer emotion, in this context.
To really want something, though, enough to go balls to the wall, to risk rejection, to give up time spent on pleasurable pursuits, to disappoint friends and family by parceling out your time, to live in a dirtier-than-average house with an overgrown flower garden--you can't get there from envy. You've got to be jealous. You have to seethe a little. You have to feel ownership over an award you aren't even eligible for, and to feel like you've lost something every time you aren't even nominated.
You have to believe it's yours in order to strive for it. It's a necessary attachment. Otherwise, you absolutely wouldn't bother.
I remember stumbling across a new writer's jealous ranting in a forum or a blog once, and turning away in distaste, wondering why they thought they were even entitled to be this irate about something--anything--at all. But I've literally been thinking about this for a year now, returning to the memory of that rant time and again, and trying to get a handle on it. And it was only last night that I put it all together, that I thoroughly looked at how I felt in 2004, 2005.
So, no, I wasn't jealous last night. (I was jealous of the people who went to the shuttle launch, because I realized I had that opportunity, and let it slip away.) I worked on my book. I checked in on the Twitter feeds. I envied the winners, the nominees. I worked a little harder on my book. But I didn't have to be jealous, because I've gone through that stage of artistic/professional development. I long ago used jealousy as the grappling hook and awards as the medium to embed the hook into, and pulled myself upward.
See, in my mind, the tower (see icon) is a metaphor for the nebulous ball of achievements I want to have by the end of my career. (I suspect it's one of those trick towers, where you don't know you've been inside of it for a long time, but that's another discussion for another day.)
YMMV, and all the usual disclaimers. But I like the notion that jealousy is a valid stepping stone, a visceral reaction that lets you know you are fully engaged with something. It's a helpful indicator for me, to check my path. I am not, for example, particularly jealous of librarians. A little envious at times; never jealous. So, perhaps not a good career path for me, after all (she learns for the ten thousandth time).
Anyway. Thoughts? Boos? Tomatoes?
Five years ago--when I'd been doing this for a whopping two years--I would have been seething with jealousy, and wouldn't have gotten any writing done. I might've opened a chat window or written a journal entry or something. (Private journal.) Who knows? But SEETHING, on some level, would have happened.
(I admit this. I am a jealous kind of person. I try not to let it affect my life and relationships with other people, but it's been this way for a long time. I've thought about this a lot, and I think it has more to do with living an insecure childhood than being spoiled. Not that I was spoiled, but I was an only child, and there are some myths about only children that still come flying at me unexpectedly to this day. Look: Only children are normal. The actual evidence suggests we have slight advantages in some situations, no disadvantages. All the only kids I know talked like adults at a young age, because they had only adults to talk to, and that's about it. And I like to think I had the advantage of learning to share with my parents, and not with some obnoxious younger/older twit who didn't have the emotional maturity to reciprocate and share back. Seriously, teaching two kids to share with each other? That has got to be the HARDEST job in the world. )
Disclaimer: the psyche I analyze may just be my own
Anyway, here's the other thing: I see this seethingess in new writers a lot. Not always, not all writers, but I do see it. And when I see it, it perplexes me, because I know I had it, too, and I didn't know why.
When you embark on something, some art, some career, some something where there are qualitative judgments and visceral reactions, and upon those judgments and reactions hinge money, and awards, and incalculable factors like popularity, coolness, and prestige, jealousy is a necessary thing. (For certain personalities, obvs.) You can't get there from here if you don't want that stuff.
And it has to be jealousy, not envy. Envy is wanting what other people have. Jealousy is the envy you get when something is taken from you. And I have a lot of professional envy for many people in my field--for just about everyone who's not me, in point of fact--and that's good, it makes me aware of what's possible, it makes me strive.
But I wouldn't have kept going two years ago if all I'd felt was envy. Envy is a peer-to-peer emotion, in this context.
To really want something, though, enough to go balls to the wall, to risk rejection, to give up time spent on pleasurable pursuits, to disappoint friends and family by parceling out your time, to live in a dirtier-than-average house with an overgrown flower garden--you can't get there from envy. You've got to be jealous. You have to seethe a little. You have to feel ownership over an award you aren't even eligible for, and to feel like you've lost something every time you aren't even nominated.
You have to believe it's yours in order to strive for it. It's a necessary attachment. Otherwise, you absolutely wouldn't bother.
I remember stumbling across a new writer's jealous ranting in a forum or a blog once, and turning away in distaste, wondering why they thought they were even entitled to be this irate about something--anything--at all. But I've literally been thinking about this for a year now, returning to the memory of that rant time and again, and trying to get a handle on it. And it was only last night that I put it all together, that I thoroughly looked at how I felt in 2004, 2005.
So, no, I wasn't jealous last night. (I was jealous of the people who went to the shuttle launch, because I realized I had that opportunity, and let it slip away.) I worked on my book. I checked in on the Twitter feeds. I envied the winners, the nominees. I worked a little harder on my book. But I didn't have to be jealous, because I've gone through that stage of artistic/professional development. I long ago used jealousy as the grappling hook and awards as the medium to embed the hook into, and pulled myself upward.
See, in my mind, the tower (see icon) is a metaphor for the nebulous ball of achievements I want to have by the end of my career. (I suspect it's one of those trick towers, where you don't know you've been inside of it for a long time, but that's another discussion for another day.)
YMMV, and all the usual disclaimers. But I like the notion that jealousy is a valid stepping stone, a visceral reaction that lets you know you are fully engaged with something. It's a helpful indicator for me, to check my path. I am not, for example, particularly jealous of librarians. A little envious at times; never jealous. So, perhaps not a good career path for me, after all (she learns for the ten thousandth time).
Anyway. Thoughts? Boos? Tomatoes?
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Date: 2010-05-16 01:40 pm (UTC)カハラホテルでもいいけど。
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Date: 2010-05-16 02:17 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-05-16 02:13 pm (UTC)I am a little perplexed I didn't catch onto why until now. I did realize it was useful at times--I'd come back from conventions and write feverishly to "catch up" (with the people I'd just seen). I didn't realize it might be an important stage for me, and one that I couldn't have skipped.
On Professional Jealousy & Envy
Date: 2010-05-16 02:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-16 02:45 pm (UTC)1) Only children. I'm an only child too...I never thought to connect it with jealousy, but I do feel like there's a way in which I'm entitled to love, affection and attention: lots of it, and keep it coming. In some ways I think it's made me more able to give this to other people...I don't worry that someone's going to come take my toys. On the other hand, I've found it very difficult to be satisfied with relationships outside the ones I have with my parents, because I have such high expectations for giving and getting.
2) I am full of jealousy. Some days (like today) I am nothing but a volcano full of jealousy...and it stops me from doing anything I need to do. Thank you for bringing this up and analyzing it as a constructive force rather than a destructive one. I've been full of guilt and anxiety--how to get rid of it? What to do?
But I also think mine comes from a fundamental insecurity. I want to be writing. I don't know if I'll ever make it. I really don't have much else going on in my life that I think is important. To think that I may not make it, and then to see someone else get an award...oh it's killer.
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Date: 2010-05-16 04:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-16 08:30 pm (UTC)"I avoided the work for years, largely because I think I knew I wasn't going to be perfect and successful right off the bat, and that just made me mad at myself later for wasting time."
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Exactly. I have that BAD. It's been the theme of my weekend even. I want to confess to some writing god: "Hey sorry, haven't really done anything for a week now. Forgive me?"
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Date: 2010-05-17 02:21 am (UTC)I no longer allow myself time off between projects. I allow myself time to work on fun projects--unsellable projects--but I don't get to stop writing. Because it's too hard on me to start and stop. I mean, I take days off, but no more than a week. A weekend watching movies is just the right ticket sometimes.
Anyway, the flip side of the jealousy for me was the patience realization. When I realized that if there was ONE THING I could go back in time and tell myself, it would be to explain how to have patience for myself, for the career, for the writing, for the all of it.
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Date: 2010-05-17 03:45 am (UTC)"Because it's too hard on me to start and stop."
Yeah! Stopping is awful. It's like that first week of school after summer vacation. Everything hurts. Or again, like running after you've stopped for a week. It feels like you're back to level 1 and it's even more frustrating because a week ago you were going so smoothly.
Patience.
God. I need so much of it. Billy Joel's "Vienna" is becoming my theme song.
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Date: 2010-05-16 02:46 pm (UTC)But what I want out of this is not something other people can ever have. If I get one of the major genre awards, it will be nice vindication, but what I want is to make people think and feel about something in the way that only I can. And sometimes awards get given for that and sometimes they don't, but I never feel like you could get an award for writing a story in a way that only I could, so if you get an award for writing a story in a way that only you could, well, yay you, go friend and all that.
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Date: 2010-05-16 03:59 pm (UTC)Also, most of the time I was writing this? I was pretty sure you were going to say, "Nope, not me." :)
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Date: 2010-05-16 11:53 pm (UTC)Though I'm still jealous now and again (low-grade rather than seething) about people who write fiction for a living. :)
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Date: 2010-05-16 03:10 pm (UTC)And I love hearing good things about being an only child, since MrD might be one, and Patrick and I both come from big families. There was a huge survey done in the UK a few years ago, asking people which was better, and what came out of it was: overall, and overwhelmingly, adults with siblings think that it's better to have siblings, and adults without siblings think that it's better to be an only child. And I've found that result really reassuring.
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Date: 2010-05-16 04:08 pm (UTC)Yes--a thousand times yes. Once I started doing the work, once I could start saying to myself, "Yes, I worked as hard as I could have today"--on a string of days--it became less and less and less of a problem.
There was more to it, though. I'm sure gaining success helped, too? But honestly, there was never a point where I sold a story and said, "That's it, that's done, not jealous." Hm.
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Date: 2010-05-16 04:11 pm (UTC)Well, you know? I think as a kid it's better to be an only and as an adult it's better to be a sibling. I am a little sad I don't have any brothers and sisters--now. But when I say that, someone points out to me that not all adult brothers and sisters get along, so it's not a guarantee. But you and your brothers, I am a little envious of that. (And my husband and his brothers, and my friends Dave and Lou and their siblings...) On the other hand... I have plenty of friends with terrible siblings, so who knows.
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Date: 2010-05-16 10:14 pm (UTC)I think it's what you do with that jealousy that makes the difference. Some people like to suck on lemons all day. Few make lemonade. Fewer still open up a stand to sell the lemonade.
You can rationalize jealousy away in several directions, cry over spilt milk, shake your fists at an uncaring sky, weep at the feet of Fate, or pick up your flamed-out ego and quench it in the oil of hard work, tempering it against a long night, and reforge it the next day.
Or as Cpt. Kirk said in that utterly forgettable ST Movie, "I need my pain, I don't want to be cured."
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Date: 2010-05-17 02:23 am (UTC)Anyway, the only thing I'd say about progressing/not-progressing is to point out that sometimes when people appear to be at a standstill, it's right before they take off at lightning speed...
The jealousy thing, once I got around it, manifested in something else entirely. I dunno how to describe it, and maybe it's yet another kind of selfish thought, but it happened when I read Dave's book, and thought, "How cool is this going to be when he publishes this?" There's something about being extremely happy for your friends in there, once you realize that they aren't actually taking anything away from you.
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Date: 2010-05-17 03:22 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-05-17 01:46 pm (UTC)Which, er, may explain both a lot of my behavior in fandom and why it is taking me so long to try writing outside of fandom. *g*
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Date: 2010-05-18 11:23 am (UTC)I'd call it more of a sign-post than a stepping-stone. Or wait, perhaps it's a cattle prod? *grin*
Very nice post.